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(If I don't have all of my facts straight, then please notify me so that I can change this journal entry. Thank you.)

Okay, so you guys know that the guys in RT make a lot of jokes. They make a lot of offensive jokes to be honest: jokes about rape, self-harm, disorders, etc.

These jokes are not okay. I do not care about how famous RoosterTeeth is. Fame does not excuse any of those things.

Whenever Ray says "Wow, that's so retarded," that is not okay.

Whenever Geoff says "Go kill yourself," that is also not okay.

Do not try to defend them and say that they've never said these things as I have heard them with my own two ears. And it pisses me off.

And this so called game that Gavin and Geoff were playing, "Connect the Hots", is not okay. It is not okay to objectify women. It is not okay to harass women. Following a woman around in a car in the early ours of the morning is terrifying for said woman. She does not know who these people could be; they could be rapists, murderers, or God knows what else.

I heard from a friend (but did not hear with my own ears) that Michael called Gavin out on Podcast #222 about this. Hopefully Gavin and Geoff will pull their heads out of their asses and realize that women are not objects of entertainment.

It's kind of sad that my feminist radar has to go off for my own heroes.

Don't be afraid to call someone out when they're being an asshole regardless of how famous they are. By making these offensive jokes, they are influencing their fans, telling them that it is okay to make these jokes when it is NOT.

Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.

(Sidenote: Keep your biased opinions away from me you uncultured swine. This is not a matter of debate.)
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RinWinters Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Someone decided to re-upload Portal House on their own channel.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Are you motherfucking serious right now.
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RinWinters Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Scratch that, THREE people re-uploaded it.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ugh. The things people will do to get subscribers.
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RinWinters Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The worst part is some of the people in the comments section. They'r just insulting the people who were offended by connect the hots. There's "I'm a girl and i didn't find it offensive :)" as well. Good for you but a lot of us did.
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HeroThief Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I am so glad I'm not the only one who feels that they cross a line sometimes. I'll never forget this one moment from a podcast (I don't remember which podcast specifically though). It was essentially boiled down to that Gavin didn't find anything particularly wrong with the vile rape joke one of his friends had made, and even thought it was funny. I've never been able to think of Gavin the same. It was kind of a turning point for me.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Right now is the turning point for me, and people can't seem to wrap their thick heads around that.

Did you read some of the comments here? They're repulsive and make me sick. I'm just going to give up on them because they obviously didn't read the entire journal entry.
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HeroThief Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I skimmed through some of them and then I was like NOPE and absconded the fuck out of them. Fucking Lewis' law at work: "the comments on any article about feminism justify feminism."
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh my gog literally though.

Some of them made whole new accounts just to argue with me. And I'm like??? This is a debate, dude. No reason to be shy, man; quit hiding behind your fake accounts and share ur opinion like a brave person!
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HeroThief Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Seriously? Are they like 13 or some shit??? Fucking misogynists, dude, they're probably just afraid of women.
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xtasisanu Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
I'm not going to make an excuse for what they do if someone feels offended that is their business, and theirs to apologize for if they feel the need.

but why in gods name... are you stating all of this NOW with accounts with their names... and your calling it out now?

Where was all this when they make racist jokes at Ray constantly or when Geoff tells people to kill themselves?

now it matters?

now.... right now at this moment when they say they did something that no one can prove they did despite the jokes they constantly tell on a show that you are idolizing IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Seriously?...
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DID YOU EVEN READ THE JOURNAL ENTRY HOLY SHIT IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE BEGINNING.


I AM LITERALLY COPYING AND PASTING THIS FROM THE JOURNAL ENTRY ABOVE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO READ IT AGAIN:

Okay, so you guys know that the guys in RT make a lot of jokes. They make a lot of offensive jokes to be honest: jokes about rape, self-harm, disorders, etc.

These jokes are not okay. I do not care about how famous RoosterTeeth is. Fame does not excuse any of those things.

Whenever Ray says "Wow, that's so retarded," that is not okay.

Whenever Geoff says "Go kill yourself," that is also not okay.
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JiveDino Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
Honestly, If it bugs you that much dont watch them. You and me and everyone were raised differently. Everybody has their own views on things. When I watch them, I realize what they do is for humor. I Have the common sense to realize that when they talk the way they do Its not serious. They should realize that they dont have to change. They arent here to please there fans, they are here to make money. Welcome to the internet. If you dont like it, You can leave.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I kindly asked everyone to keep their biased opinions out of this. This opinion is now deemed biased and therefore does not matter to me. Goodbye.
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JiveDino Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
The opinion is not biased at all, and if it is. How is yours not Biased. You have all the right to complain, but this is the internet, and this is what they do. Understand that
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JZStudios Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It's dark humor and it's suppose to be offensive. But to be fair they don't just make fun of one certain group of people but overall they make fun of everyone including themselves.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't care who it is directed at. It is not okay. There is no excuse.
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JZStudios Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Well they do have the right to speak freely, anyways they really don't mean it. Seriously, they have said many offensive jokes to almost all the nationalities of the world. They have made fun of science, the human body, the way the world will collapse, the social classes between different people.

But one joke about following women around is where there is no excuse?
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, they have the right to speak freely. But take a moment to think of the amount of FANS they have: fans that look up to them and want to mimic them. Now it's not just a few guys, but MILLIONS OF PEOPLE? Is that OKAY too?

(I'm not saying that all of their fans are the same. That's not the point I'm trying to get across. Overall, I'm just saying that they have a LOT of influence over a LOT of people.)

Yes, they have made a LOT OF OFFENSIVE JOKES. The fact that they have said so many jokes has bothered me, but I chose never to say anything about it- until now. If you read the whole journal entry instead of a few select sentences, you would see that.

Though degrading and objectifying a woman just because they are bored is where I draw the line and decide to speak out against them. None of the offensive things they joke about are okay and have never been okay and will never be okay.

MICHAEL CALLED GAVIN OUT ON IT. THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.
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JZStudios Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yes I see your point and I can tell why you are mad.
But you have to remember they are people, they're not beings of self perfection they have their flaws and they sometimes forget their fans because they have a great time with them.

I'm not defending them, but please calm down. Sure they made a bad move on their part but this doesn't necessarily describe their true selves.

And if Michael actually called out Gavin, then it was probably to embarrass him and forcefully make him apologize. If you think about it, it could have gone way worse if Michael had not done what he did.

As for the fans, most of the group are intelligent people with their own ethics and morals. To argue it would influence anyone, would be a bit preposterous, and those who do get influenced could be just a small percentage.
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm not actually mad at them! I don't think I could ever stay mad at them for a long time ever unless they did something very drastic/awful. I just feel like we're sharing our opinions, and maybe I got a little too passionate? (I do that often.)

Of course they're flawed. I just want them to see that they made a mistake, and that they need to fix it somehow. (A lot of people are expecting an apology. I'm not.)
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JZStudios Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Well that's the power of human realization, they'll probably realize they did something wrong. Or Burnie would just yell at them for what they did and just wait for them to do the right thing.

But one thing for sure, this is not going to affect the fans a lot. They'll just say oh its Rooster Teeth being Rooster Teeth, then they'll forget about it and yell at another thing that they did.
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xXChibiStarrXx Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Student Writer
It sucks, doesn't it... I mean, I still love them, but it's creepy... it's scary, and I can't imagine just how horrible it would be for those women. =(
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's not that I'm angry with them. I'm just disappointed. (I sound like an angry mom omg.)

And they need to realize how much influence they have on fans. They probably don't realize how many idiots decided to try this at home. All I can think of is: "What if they start a new trend?" That would be awful. Ugh.
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geofframsey Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
ah, that's a bunch of truth right there
and heres the part if you still haven't heard it. [link]
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gavinfree Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
They're supposed to be my heroes; what happened.
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geofframsey Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
don't even know what to say about it anymore, i'm just gonna wait.
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